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Dispatchers: Are they First Responders?

crossover logoIn this episode, HM and MC talk about the voices in our heads…Dispatch.

Should dispatchers be considered “First Responders”? Er….the Fourth Discipline? (HM dislikes the term First Responders.)

The guys weigh in with their perspectives. Join the conversation!

Included in this episode: we heckle one of our most ardent listeners…because we love him. ¬†ūüėČ

BOLO – The Movie/TV Edition


The Magnificent Seven


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Take me home, Jeeves...

crossover logoWhat do a Paramedic and Traffic Cop think of self driving cars?

Find out if the boys think this will be the end of driving as we know it or a safer, easier way for MC to investigate collisions.  Turns out not so much on either subject.

Could self driving cars be a necessity as our elders lose their ability to react and others seem less and less able to drive without distraction?

What are the guys drinking for this show?

All this and more on yet another installment of the internet’s first best and only Fire Police and EMS podcast!

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Home by Harlan Coben

The Crossover Show – 073

Take a knee...or don' know, whatever.

crossover logoLadies and Gentlemen please stand, gentlemen remove your caps, Motorcop and Happy Medic are discussing kneeling for the National Anthem.

The boys jump right in, grab the third rail and discuss the NFL players’ reported motives for their protest, whether their argument has any merit and what one has to do with the other.

HM and MC could not be more opposed on one aspect of this whole thing but keep the discussion civil and keep the name calling to the usual medium level.

Where do you stand on this topic? (see what we did there?)

In addition, since 9/11 just hit 15 years the guys briefly discuss how their agencies and families observe the day and if we are mourning or celebrating the day…or both.


How I Built This – NPR podcast hosted by Guy Raz

Millionaire Next Door – Thomas J Stanley

Nothing – What HM is reading

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Oh, Florida...You're at it again.

crossover logoIn this episode, MC and HM talk about a fun game* some medics in Florida played that violated federal law (or guideline, if you prefer), likely a bunch of policies, and most importantly, simply not being an asshole.


Law Enforcement Learning

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*This is sarcasm. If you’re new, you may want to know that at the outset.

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It's Time for the Kilt! #KiltedToKickCancer

KTKC_Logo_Hi-Res 300x300In this week’s episode, MC and HM introduce (or re-introduce) you to their charity, Kilted to Kick Cancer.

September is Prostate Cancer Awareness month. Six years ago, HM and MC donned a kilt for the first time. Their comfort reached levels previously unknown. In a moment of typical selfishness, they hatched a plan to wear them far more often.

As it happens, the kilt is an incredible conversation starter (far greater than a pink T-shirt or growing a mustache).

If you click on the link above or the shield to the right, you’ll be taken to the KTKC website to learn more information.

Also, you can create your own fundraising team via the website. Raise money and win fantastic prizes!

Get Kilted! Get Checked!

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Mr. Reginald Johnson Goes to Jail

crossover logoIn this week’s episode, HM and MC discuss the case of Reginald Johnson…not his real name (fans of Super Troopers will appreciate that)…and Spokane PD.

Seems Mr. Johnson got himself into a bit of an alcoholic daze and the interaction with Spokane PD was recorded. Spokane PD made the video public and now all kinds of folks are bent out of shape about it…mostly Mr. Johnson and the ACLU.

Wherever you fall in the argument, do yourself a favor and watch the video.

Truly a timeless classic.

Is Mr. Johnson being shamed? MC kinda hopes that’s a by-pr0duct. Or did Spokane just want to show the citizens of Spokane what it is they deal with on a daily basis? ¬†You be the judge!


The Way I Heard It With Mike Rowe¬†– You won’t regret your time!

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The Crossover Show – 069

That is blue.

crossover logoIn this week’s episode, MC and HM discuss Selma, Alabama, and their issues with pay. Two days in a row, officers called in “sick” (what is referred to as the “Blue Flu”) to show solidarity and unity with regard to their abysmal pay.

The guys talk about solutions (some of which are likely to be unpopular) and what those officers may want to do to improve their financial well-being.  Below is the link to the article referenced on

To our friends in Alabama: Keep the faith, fight the good fight, and remember why you took the job to begin with…because it sure as shit wasn’t the pay.

And speaking of pay!

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Dataclysm by Christian Rudder

The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas J. Stanley


Blue Flu Article on PoliceOne

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crossover logoThis week MC and HM just couldn’t find the time to sit down and fire up the show.¬† Perhaps it was all the OT they’ve been working, or the 5 kids running all around, but Justin took this opportunity to sit down and throw some ideas out about something he feels is lacking in the three disciplines these days:


We think we know what it means, but how can we apply the successful principles of customer service from the engine, ambulance or patrol car?

You’ll also get a brief sneak peek (sneak listen still sounds naughty) of an upcoming presentation Justin is working on covering just this topic.

Hit the library and grab some books about how decisions are made and be sure to hit up Simon Sinek’s series on WHY at Start With Why

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Traffic stops and profiling

crossover logoIn this week’s episode, HM and MC discuss Hamden, Connecticut’s police chief and his request for his officers to conduct traffic stops based on moving violations instead of mechanical violations. You can read the piece for yourself here.

Why, you ask?

Seems the Hamden PD has been stopping a more significant amount of mechanical violations when the driver is off a non-caucasian persuasion.  As if you need to ask, Happy has data and numbers when it comes to this episode.

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The Crossover Show – 066

Uniforms...uniformity? Hell with it...Shirts!

crossover logoIn this week’s episode, HM and MC took to Facebook Live (sensing a theme lately?!) and chatted with a few hundred viewers about one of HM’s little quirks: his hatred of polo shirts.

The guys talk about the purpose of one’s uniform. Is it to command authority? Professionalism? Both?

Come along down the fashion rabbit hole with your enthusiastic hosts as they argue about whether or not one needs tin on one’s chest to be “professional” or if cloth will suffice.